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		<title>Comment on The real cost of confidence and assurance by shaun sayers</title>
		<link>http://thecqi.info/25/08/2010/the-real-cost-of-confidence-and-assurance/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>shaun sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pruning Carol? Good analogy. Systems left to their own devices drift and grow like topsy. One thing is for sure, if we didn&#039;t have a public sector, and then we decided we need one (and we do need one - the public sector provides numerous essential services) we would not design and build it to look like it does now. Anyone want to argue differently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pruning Carol? Good analogy. Systems left to their own devices drift and grow like topsy. One thing is for sure, if we didn&#8217;t have a public sector, and then we decided we need one (and we do need one &#8211; the public sector provides numerous essential services) we would not design and build it to look like it does now. Anyone want to argue differently?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The real cost of confidence and assurance by Carol Long</title>
		<link>http://thecqi.info/25/08/2010/the-real-cost-of-confidence-and-assurance/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the start of the last Government, there was a joined up government and transformation agenda. We were promised a new garden. The gardeners planted and reshaped but sometimes they lost their nerve and didn&#039;t prune out the unnecessary growth. Our garden looked good for a while until all the growth (new and old) started to tangle into a jungle.

To the public The Audit Commission and the National Audit Office must seem to do vary similar things. Branches overlapping.

When cutting back is required and there is apparent overlaps in a system, they gets pruned. In this case The Audit Commission was pruned. That is the simplistic way of looking at it; the National Audit Office and The Audit Commission are not the same. But both are about public confidence and  assurance and easy assumptions meant they were treated as if they were.

Third party assurance would be duplicating the National Audit Office in the public&#039;s eyes: &quot;what a waste of money and to give it to profit making enterprise, horror!&quot;

The public sector works how the public sector works. There have been some very good reasons for that: checks and balances for every action, and a clear delegation of responsibility for money and other resources. 

Yes, that control has led to inefficiencies as it would in any organisation. 
Yes, with a lack of pruning of old to make way for new growth, there are tangles of red tape.
Yes, the compartmentalisation has meant that the big picture is lost in the small actions of a department&#039;s &quot;business as usual&quot; and the wheel gets reinvented because information is not shared.
Yes, it costs as much to get the order for stationery approved as the stationery itself.

Over the last few years, some parts of the public sector has tried to improve its efficiency (shared services and group purchasing) and sharing of practice (Civil Service Live being an example of one big event).  It hasn&#039;t always worked but it has got people thinking about how to make the cuts needed today.

However, the biggest problem with both the proposed cuts and the public sector is that they are not viewed holistically as a system. A spending decision or cut will impact not just the case in hand but the whole service. For example, potted plants have been shown to help the air quality in an office: would you rather plants or a higher sickness rate (over-staffing to reduce backlogs) and the need to buy humidifiers?   Not upgrading PCs can make workers slower.  Not training people can add to waste through error. Not developing talent means a leaderless team in the future. Less control on planning for houses means more transport problems.

I may well be time to reform AC, NAO and OGC (Office of Government Commerce) who all worked on assurance and confidence in different areas. Refocus the argument and start from scratch: what are the objectives of what the public sector does and what controls do we need so it does it effectively and efficiently. Now build that from the public sector we have by pruning and grafting the rich stock of plants we have in that garden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the start of the last Government, there was a joined up government and transformation agenda. We were promised a new garden. The gardeners planted and reshaped but sometimes they lost their nerve and didn&#8217;t prune out the unnecessary growth. Our garden looked good for a while until all the growth (new and old) started to tangle into a jungle.</p>
<p>To the public The Audit Commission and the National Audit Office must seem to do vary similar things. Branches overlapping.</p>
<p>When cutting back is required and there is apparent overlaps in a system, they gets pruned. In this case The Audit Commission was pruned. That is the simplistic way of looking at it; the National Audit Office and The Audit Commission are not the same. But both are about public confidence and  assurance and easy assumptions meant they were treated as if they were.</p>
<p>Third party assurance would be duplicating the National Audit Office in the public&#8217;s eyes: &#8220;what a waste of money and to give it to profit making enterprise, horror!&#8221;</p>
<p>The public sector works how the public sector works. There have been some very good reasons for that: checks and balances for every action, and a clear delegation of responsibility for money and other resources. </p>
<p>Yes, that control has led to inefficiencies as it would in any organisation.<br />
Yes, with a lack of pruning of old to make way for new growth, there are tangles of red tape.<br />
Yes, the compartmentalisation has meant that the big picture is lost in the small actions of a department&#8217;s &#8220;business as usual&#8221; and the wheel gets reinvented because information is not shared.<br />
Yes, it costs as much to get the order for stationery approved as the stationery itself.</p>
<p>Over the last few years, some parts of the public sector has tried to improve its efficiency (shared services and group purchasing) and sharing of practice (Civil Service Live being an example of one big event).  It hasn&#8217;t always worked but it has got people thinking about how to make the cuts needed today.</p>
<p>However, the biggest problem with both the proposed cuts and the public sector is that they are not viewed holistically as a system. A spending decision or cut will impact not just the case in hand but the whole service. For example, potted plants have been shown to help the air quality in an office: would you rather plants or a higher sickness rate (over-staffing to reduce backlogs) and the need to buy humidifiers?   Not upgrading PCs can make workers slower.  Not training people can add to waste through error. Not developing talent means a leaderless team in the future. Less control on planning for houses means more transport problems.</p>
<p>I may well be time to reform AC, NAO and OGC (Office of Government Commerce) who all worked on assurance and confidence in different areas. Refocus the argument and start from scratch: what are the objectives of what the public sector does and what controls do we need so it does it effectively and efficiently. Now build that from the public sector we have by pruning and grafting the rich stock of plants we have in that garden.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Manufacturing: is it the answer? by Paul Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was good to see the topic of this week’s blog and the good news stories of improvements in manufacturing in the UK. Simon Feary is right to question the sustainability of this improvement but I would question the arguments presented and apply my own ‘quality’ slant to the debate. I remember the 1980s and the mantra that the UK could become a Service Sector economy led by the Finance sector. I didn’t believe that viewpoint at the time and I don’t believe manufacturing on its own is the answer now. As ever, it’s more complicated than that. 

All manufacturing and paid-for-service processes are about adding value. Whether the process input is an ingot of forging steel or a cash deposit the additional value created (in the customer’s eyes) is a measure of the process effectiveness. The cost in terms of cash, people and time in generating the added value are all measures of process efficiency. So in an ideal world if we could choose our economy we would cherry pick those industries where the added value is highest and our costs are lowest. But here’s the rub - everybody else wants to do that - and that brings me back to quality. 
If you have the right product in the right market you will continue to make money but to do so there are a huge range of skills that need to be continually developed including marketing, design, manufacturing, logistics. Get any one of these wrong and you will lose your market in the short or long term. I call it the Austin Allegro effect. In fact the car industry is a classic example of where organizations succeed despite a high cost base with continued high quality production in all the high wage economies of the western world.

By the way … substitute ‘service delivery’ for ‘manufacturing’ in the first sentence of the paragraph above and you have the secret to high quality service provision.

The Sheffield Forgemasters example is an interesting one that is probably only clear if you have definite political persuasion. In my mind the background of political lobbying and questions over the validity of the loan under EU rules make it too complicated for me to judge without further facts. I do subscribe to the view that governments should target loans to develop capability, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was good to see the topic of this week’s blog and the good news stories of improvements in manufacturing in the UK. Simon Feary is right to question the sustainability of this improvement but I would question the arguments presented and apply my own ‘quality’ slant to the debate. I remember the 1980s and the mantra that the UK could become a Service Sector economy led by the Finance sector. I didn’t believe that viewpoint at the time and I don’t believe manufacturing on its own is the answer now. As ever, it’s more complicated than that. </p>
<p>All manufacturing and paid-for-service processes are about adding value. Whether the process input is an ingot of forging steel or a cash deposit the additional value created (in the customer’s eyes) is a measure of the process effectiveness. The cost in terms of cash, people and time in generating the added value are all measures of process efficiency. So in an ideal world if we could choose our economy we would cherry pick those industries where the added value is highest and our costs are lowest. But here’s the rub &#8211; everybody else wants to do that &#8211; and that brings me back to quality.<br />
If you have the right product in the right market you will continue to make money but to do so there are a huge range of skills that need to be continually developed including marketing, design, manufacturing, logistics. Get any one of these wrong and you will lose your market in the short or long term. I call it the Austin Allegro effect. In fact the car industry is a classic example of where organizations succeed despite a high cost base with continued high quality production in all the high wage economies of the western world.</p>
<p>By the way … substitute ‘service delivery’ for ‘manufacturing’ in the first sentence of the paragraph above and you have the secret to high quality service provision.</p>
<p>The Sheffield Forgemasters example is an interesting one that is probably only clear if you have definite political persuasion. In my mind the background of political lobbying and questions over the validity of the loan under EU rules make it too complicated for me to judge without further facts. I do subscribe to the view that governments should target loans to develop capability, though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The real cost of confidence and assurance by shaun sayers</title>
		<link>http://thecqi.info/25/08/2010/the-real-cost-of-confidence-and-assurance/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>shaun sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great examples Paul. A saturated market. Just like the market for miracle weight loss treatments. Snake oil ...

Who wants to be good at quality and bad at business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great examples Paul. A saturated market. Just like the market for miracle weight loss treatments. Snake oil &#8230;</p>
<p>Who wants to be good at quality and bad at business?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The real cost of confidence and assurance by Paul Simpson</title>
		<link>http://thecqi.info/25/08/2010/the-real-cost-of-confidence-and-assurance/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where to start in response to this wide ranging blog entry on confidence and assurance? Perhaps by saying it doesn’t range far enough! Shaun touches on it in his reply - problems the Audit Commission seeks to find and deter are not related to the audit activity but are to do with policy, direction and common purpose - with the system design. 

Let’s also be clear before we start representing the quality message to government that we know what we are going to tell them because as the old cliché goes: ‘You don’t get a second chance to make a good first impression.’ 

For once I agree with Tony Brown that a third party assessment regime is not the answer - but for very different reasons. To all intents and purposes we have a third party inspection / audit system in place with the Audit Commission. To ‘privatize’ the same system using UKAS or an accredited conformity assessment body might gain improvements and save money in the short and / or long term - I wouldn’t want to place a bet either way.

Similarly the blog supports the coalition Government’s move away from target setting as an approach to improving performance. Again we have to be clear here. The ‘quality’ issue is not about objective and target setting as a means of aligning activity with organizational strategy but the fact that organizations and individuals have lost sight of long term objectives, like improved health, by being forced to achieve meaningless targets for waiting times - i.e. targets are not aligned with the overall goals.

I tend to agree with Shaun that the issue is with institutionalized inefficiency that no amount of inspection or audit will solve. When the CQI goes to Government it should be with an agenda to design efficient processes including process measures that give an accurate picture of performance.

Confidence and Assurance is a very crowded market place at the moment - just have a look at these few straplines:

http://www.ukas.com/ - Delivering confidence
http://www.bsigroup.com/en/ - We’re raising standards in over 120 countries worldwide
http://www.uk.sgs.com/ - When you need to be sure

For CQI to have a distinct place in this market we need to have a USP. I&#039;m not convinced the profession knows what it is yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where to start in response to this wide ranging blog entry on confidence and assurance? Perhaps by saying it doesn’t range far enough! Shaun touches on it in his reply &#8211; problems the Audit Commission seeks to find and deter are not related to the audit activity but are to do with policy, direction and common purpose &#8211; with the system design. </p>
<p>Let’s also be clear before we start representing the quality message to government that we know what we are going to tell them because as the old cliché goes: ‘You don’t get a second chance to make a good first impression.’ </p>
<p>For once I agree with Tony Brown that a third party assessment regime is not the answer &#8211; but for very different reasons. To all intents and purposes we have a third party inspection / audit system in place with the Audit Commission. To ‘privatize’ the same system using UKAS or an accredited conformity assessment body might gain improvements and save money in the short and / or long term &#8211; I wouldn’t want to place a bet either way.</p>
<p>Similarly the blog supports the coalition Government’s move away from target setting as an approach to improving performance. Again we have to be clear here. The ‘quality’ issue is not about objective and target setting as a means of aligning activity with organizational strategy but the fact that organizations and individuals have lost sight of long term objectives, like improved health, by being forced to achieve meaningless targets for waiting times &#8211; i.e. targets are not aligned with the overall goals.</p>
<p>I tend to agree with Shaun that the issue is with institutionalized inefficiency that no amount of inspection or audit will solve. When the CQI goes to Government it should be with an agenda to design efficient processes including process measures that give an accurate picture of performance.</p>
<p>Confidence and Assurance is a very crowded market place at the moment &#8211; just have a look at these few straplines:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ukas.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ukas.com/</a> &#8211; Delivering confidence<br />
<a href="http://www.bsigroup.com/en/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bsigroup.com/en/</a> &#8211; We’re raising standards in over 120 countries worldwide<br />
<a href="http://www.uk.sgs.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.uk.sgs.com/</a> &#8211; When you need to be sure</p>
<p>For CQI to have a distinct place in this market we need to have a USP. I&#8217;m not convinced the profession knows what it is yet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The real cost of confidence and assurance by shaun sayers</title>
		<link>http://thecqi.info/25/08/2010/the-real-cost-of-confidence-and-assurance/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>shaun sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public Sector systems behave pretty much the way they were designed to behave. The problem is not lack of &quot;quality&quot; knowledge. If that were the answer we&#039;d have eliminated the inherent problems decades ago as this &quot;knowledge&quot; is neither complex or difficult to acquire

Systems continue to be inefficient for one reason only, because they can be. As soon as the option of inefficiency is removed, surprise surprise, things change pretty quickly. This generally involves upsetting a number of people with a vested interest in the status quo which, if these people are numerous and/or influential, is easier said than done. Thankfully I suspect the time that we can spend tip-toeing around these elephants in rooms is coming to an end. Its a governance issue, not a quality or knowledge issue, and I speak as a 15 year veteran of these highly political systems. I am not speculating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public Sector systems behave pretty much the way they were designed to behave. The problem is not lack of &#8220;quality&#8221; knowledge. If that were the answer we&#8217;d have eliminated the inherent problems decades ago as this &#8220;knowledge&#8221; is neither complex or difficult to acquire</p>
<p>Systems continue to be inefficient for one reason only, because they can be. As soon as the option of inefficiency is removed, surprise surprise, things change pretty quickly. This generally involves upsetting a number of people with a vested interest in the status quo which, if these people are numerous and/or influential, is easier said than done. Thankfully I suspect the time that we can spend tip-toeing around these elephants in rooms is coming to an end. Its a governance issue, not a quality or knowledge issue, and I speak as a 15 year veteran of these highly political systems. I am not speculating</p>
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		<title>Comment on The real cost of confidence and assurance by Tony Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with Simon Feary on the value of the Audit Commission and the good work they did as an independant function. Replacement by third party assessment is not the solution. The third party audit function is seen by many organisations as the weak link in the system of third party assessment of quality management systems. Which is why two major standards have been produced to try to improve its performance. Both the automotive and the aerospace industries have had to take radical, remedial actions with the assessors to improve competences including sending them back to school to learn quality management. At a major defence company we had a multi million pound contract come to a halt, the programme put back 4 years at a cost of 4 billion pounds to the taxpayer through major quality assurance and control issues scandalously undetected by a blue chip UK assessment company&#039;s under-resourced, incompetent third party audit. Everyone in the industry has their own horror story. The fundamental truth is the system is flawed in principle because the piper(customer) doesn&#039;t pay for the tune for the third party assessment and the customer is seen as the company being audited. Only by going back to a first and second party assessment system will effective audit with the correct degree of critical tension through ownership of the product quality resonsibility be restored.
The public sector has spent millions of pounds of taxpayers money establishing there own bespoke Quality Management systems with very mixed results which should place the CQI in a strong position to offer the knowledge of their professional members to help them improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with Simon Feary on the value of the Audit Commission and the good work they did as an independant function. Replacement by third party assessment is not the solution. The third party audit function is seen by many organisations as the weak link in the system of third party assessment of quality management systems. Which is why two major standards have been produced to try to improve its performance. Both the automotive and the aerospace industries have had to take radical, remedial actions with the assessors to improve competences including sending them back to school to learn quality management. At a major defence company we had a multi million pound contract come to a halt, the programme put back 4 years at a cost of 4 billion pounds to the taxpayer through major quality assurance and control issues scandalously undetected by a blue chip UK assessment company&#8217;s under-resourced, incompetent third party audit. Everyone in the industry has their own horror story. The fundamental truth is the system is flawed in principle because the piper(customer) doesn&#8217;t pay for the tune for the third party assessment and the customer is seen as the company being audited. Only by going back to a first and second party assessment system will effective audit with the correct degree of critical tension through ownership of the product quality resonsibility be restored.<br />
The public sector has spent millions of pounds of taxpayers money establishing there own bespoke Quality Management systems with very mixed results which should place the CQI in a strong position to offer the knowledge of their professional members to help them improve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The real cost of confidence and assurance by shaun sayers</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaun sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My good friend Chris Baker, Technical Director at the Institute of Internal Auditors (IIA) regularly posts articles on my blog. Here&#039;s one he penned on the subject of Corporate Governance 

http://blog.capablepeople.co.uk/2009/04/corporate-governance/

The IIA has little or no interest in the 3rd party certification industry, but if we are talking about a more general concern and potential to lobby credibly about governance and the management of corporate risk, then I&#039;d suggest there&#039;s scope for dialogue between the IRCA an IIA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My good friend Chris Baker, Technical Director at the Institute of Internal Auditors (IIA) regularly posts articles on my blog. Here&#8217;s one he penned on the subject of Corporate Governance </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.capablepeople.co.uk/2009/04/corporate-governance/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.capablepeople.co.uk/2009/04/corporate-governance/</a></p>
<p>The IIA has little or no interest in the 3rd party certification industry, but if we are talking about a more general concern and potential to lobby credibly about governance and the management of corporate risk, then I&#8217;d suggest there&#8217;s scope for dialogue between the IRCA an IIA</p>
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		<title>Comment on Back to the future: Businesses returning to quality? by shaun sayers</title>
		<link>http://thecqi.info/12/08/2010/back-to-the-future-businesses-returning-to-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>shaun sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing that a tough economic brings is a wave of extinctions, and a refocus on basic disciplines. I could extend the evolutionary metaphor further and suggest that in the main it weeds out those that have unsustainable and fragile business model, from those that are more robust

The answer is not all pure &quot;quality&quot; of course (sorry, but its not), because a sustainable business model is built at least as much on the ability to achieve the right balance between earnings and investment. Speaking as someone who had the misfortune to start a business six months before the start of economic meltdown, I feel strangely fortunate to have learned these disciplines for free. They&#039;ll serve me well going forward I&#039;m sure. I just hope that as time goes on and times may get better, I remember that sometimes bad things do happen, and continue to make appropriate provision for it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing that a tough economic brings is a wave of extinctions, and a refocus on basic disciplines. I could extend the evolutionary metaphor further and suggest that in the main it weeds out those that have unsustainable and fragile business model, from those that are more robust</p>
<p>The answer is not all pure &#8220;quality&#8221; of course (sorry, but its not), because a sustainable business model is built at least as much on the ability to achieve the right balance between earnings and investment. Speaking as someone who had the misfortune to start a business six months before the start of economic meltdown, I feel strangely fortunate to have learned these disciplines for free. They&#8217;ll serve me well going forward I&#8217;m sure. I just hope that as time goes on and times may get better, I remember that sometimes bad things do happen, and continue to make appropriate provision for it</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vocational qualifications to edge ahead of university degrees? by David Hoyle Hon. FCQI.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hoyle Hon. FCQI.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I don&#039;t think that the approach taken when I was going through the education process in the 1960s was far off the mark. I had an engineering apprenticeship where I undertook what they called a sandwich course where the academic part was linked to the vocational part and the outcome being that I qualified as a Chartered Engineer possessing the skills and knowldege to add value. Thus I could demonstrate both academic and practical ability and there was more than one way of achieving it: 3 yr University course, 3 academic terms  day release or night school + on the job training

Why can&#039;t we do the same today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I don&#8217;t think that the approach taken when I was going through the education process in the 1960s was far off the mark. I had an engineering apprenticeship where I undertook what they called a sandwich course where the academic part was linked to the vocational part and the outcome being that I qualified as a Chartered Engineer possessing the skills and knowldege to add value. Thus I could demonstrate both academic and practical ability and there was more than one way of achieving it: 3 yr University course, 3 academic terms  day release or night school + on the job training</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we do the same today?</p>
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